Collaboration WAS: E-mail Privacy
Tim Chown
tjc at ecs.soton.ac.uk
Tue Jun 18 01:01:22 AEST 1991
In <287 at bria.UUCP> mike at bria.UUCP (mike.stefanik) writes:
>In an article, tjc at ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) writes:
>>But a degree is awarded on the basis of *your* skills at design/coding
>>and on *your* ability to interact in a group project, not somebody else's!
>>A good CS degree has management/teamwork skills built in (ours does,
>>quick plug ;-), but should still demand individual performance.
>Hardly. A degree is awarded on the basis of yours skills at taking tests,
>and conforming to the norm. If the goals of universities in the U.S. are
>to produce thinking, well-rounded human beings, they are failing miserably.
That, then, is a fault of that degree course. A challenging course
combines the essentials of design, teamwork, management, programming,
and so on and bases a large proportion of the degree on individual
and team assignments, and less on sweating out exams.
>By and large, the best programmers I have met have no papers. Personally,
>I got rather disgusted with the entire fiasco years ago. I walked into a
>class, and here was one of the most repected CS professors talking about the
>value of goto's in programming languages, and that structured coding was
>a passing fad. It still makes me ill to think about it ...
Respected amongst who? A good programmer doesn't necessarily make
a good manager, and vice versa. A programmer just sits down and
implements the spec (whether formal or not) given by the boss; rather
like sitting on a producion line.
I suspect your experiences are from one bad apple, or at least I hope
they are. Computer science as a discipline is still not that well formed.
Anyway, which group should this discussion be in ??? Perhaps we need
a comp.courses.content ;-)
Tim
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