second thoughts on buying a 3000UX
Mark D. Manes, Norfolk State University
manes at vger.nsu.edu
Wed Feb 27 01:38:27 AEST 1991
In article <61751 at masscomp.westford.ccur.com>, rtc at westford.ccur.com (Robert Chesler) writes:
> I've been thinking about buying one of the 3000UX systems to develop an
> X-based software system. Commodore finally told me how much it would
> cost me to get a system as a commercial developer, but hasn't been able
> to answer fully. I also realized that their idea of "X" might be different
> than mine.
I am not sure what your idea of X is but as far as I can tell, X appears
to be X on a Amiga 3000UX.
>
> Please tell me why I shouldn't give in to my second thoughts against
> buying one...
>
Cuz its a neat machine????
>
>
> What is the software installation format that they use? I know that
> the systems come pre-loaded, but a reinstallation might become necessary
> in the future, and I'll most likely reinstall it just to get rid of
> the Amiga DOS stuff they seem to feel I'll want.
>
> I'm pretty sure the installation media is a cartridge tape. Is it a
> quarter inch cartridge (QIC) or their own standard. They couldn't even
> tell me the price of a tape drive! Anyone know the density or capacity,
> or the price of the tape drives?
It does use a QIC-150 Tape drive. The drive is $699 education I believe.
>
> I've heard that additional memory chips must be surface-soldered to
> the main board. I've also heard that memory is user upgradable, and that
> expansion boards are available. What really is the largest amount of
> memory that I can cram into the system? How much does it cost to get the
> system with 16 Mb or more memory? They could only tell me the price with 9Mb.
You heard _incorrectly_. Simply plug in the chips and go.
9MB is the system they sell, but the motherboard will allow a upgrade to a
total of 18MB of memory. (16MB fast memory, 2MB chip memory).
>
>
> What does Commodore mean by "choice of monitors?" The price CATS quoted me
> allows for my choice of monitors. Well I want to run an X server, and I'd
> want color, and resolution greater than 1024 X 864. I see 1280 X 400 listed
> (I assume this isn't a joke) and I see an expansion graphics board listed as
> 1024 X 1024. Well if I need to get that expansion board, so be it, but
> how much does it cost? How many of them can be put on a system?
>
They are referring to the yet to be released University of Lowell board.
With this board you can connect a variety of mega-pixel displays, according
to Paul Van Reed at Commodore.
>
> Does the SCSI implementation allow for connecting and using:
> - scanners
> - fixed-block tapes
> - other tapes
> - disks (native scsi, or adaptec, OMTI, or other bridge boards)
> - CD-ROM's and other removable optical disks
YES.
>
> Does the system truly come with ethernet? Does the running system support
> booting X terminals on the network? Does it support all of the major booting
> protocols?
It sure does! Both thick and thin. I had it hooked into my VAX network
with not a single problem.
>
>
> What's the deal with getting a 50Mhz CPU clock speed? What's the deal with
> getting a 68040 CPU? Are they really available? How much more cost?
The _deal_ is that _currently_ there are no 68040 boards available
for the A3000, nor a 68030 replacement. I don't recall Commodore
promising one.
>
> Could someone post the output of a recursive "ls" on a system?
> Is there a comprehensive list of what UNIX software comes with it, or at least
> is available to put on it? I want some sort of database for example.
>
> How will third party sotware products be distributed? (see tape drive question
> above!)
>
>
> Please reply by email, and I'll post a summary.
Nah, I think you should read comp.unix.amiga. :-)
I suspect you spoke to somebody in CATS Administration. These folks are
not necessarily "UNIX" techies. I think CATS is in the process of hiring
a UNIX person. You might want to try to get a hold of Paul Van Reed at
Commodore.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> --Robert
>
> rtc at westford.ccur.com or decvax!chesler!rob
> w: (508) 392-2702 h: (603) 881-5456
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