New group comp.unix.sco

Dave Armbrust dma at pcssc.UUCP
Wed Mar 28 16:34:03 AEST 1990

In article <9003271338.AA14014 at>

>While I think xenix is different enought to warrant a group, sco's Sys V
>is so similar that comp.unix.i386 covers it.

I have had several responses since the call for discussion stating that
they did not realize that comp.unix.i386 is for all 386 Unix versions.
For this reason comp.unix.xenix gets postings that would be better posted
in comp.unix.i386.  The people that do realize this appear to post into 
both groups.  It is my hope that having the group comp.unix.sco will cut 
down on the unnecessary cross posting.

In article <1990Mar26.213809.26999 at> rcd at (Dick Dunn)
Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Boulder, CO

>dma at pcssc.UUCP (Dave Armbrust) suggests a new group comp.unix.sco.
>> This group would be intended for postings regarding all products
>> from Santa Cruz Operations;  Including but not limited to SCO
>> Xenix, SCO Unix, Xsight, (ODT) Open Desk Top, Lyrix, VP/ix, SCO
>> Professional, etc.
>There are already newsgroups suitable for the intended purposes.  Xenix-
>specific discussions can go in comp.unix.xenix.  UNIX-specific discussions
>(referring to the AT&T-based V.3 product) can go in comp.unix.i386.  

Yes UNIX-specific discussions should continue to go to comp.unix.i386 when
they apply to all 386 UNIX operating systems installations.  But what about
the other products I mentioned that can be used under SCO Xenix and SCO Unix.

>Discussions which overlap the two (such as the common questions about
>"should I buy Xenix or UNIX?") are most logically cross-posted to the two.

No, this most logically belongs in comp.unix.sco and should not get a cross
posting.  SCO sells both products and this group is most likely to be
aware of the differences.

>The major difficulty I see with adding an SCO-specific group is that there
>are many discussions which really apply to various vendors of 386 systems.
>To the extent that the discussions bear on SCO UNIX, I expect we'd see a
>lot of cross-posting, since their base code and VP/ix is based on the same
>code used by the other vendors in that arena.

Most discussions are for specific implementations of UNIX/Xenix, if
a posting is regarding a SCO UNIX or Xenix installation it could be better
served under comp.unix.sco.  Rarely do you see a posting that does not
mention what flavor of UNIX they have.  Why is this?  It is because it makes
a difference. In the rarer case where it relates to ALL 386 UNIX
installations then this would be valid time to cross post.

>To the extent that SCO discussions apply to a variety of unrelated
>products, I feel it's a bad precedent to set up new manufacturer-oriented
>groups instead of discussing by topic...I'd really not want to see
>comp.unix.isc, comp.unix.esix,, comp.unix.att, come out
>of this.

I do not want to see comp.unix.vpix, comp.unix.lyrix, comp.unix.xsight,
comp.unix.odt, comp.unix.professional either.  All these products (with
the exception of ODT) will run on both SCO Xenix and SCO Unix.  The only
logical thing to do without this group is to cross post to comp.unix.xenix
and comp.unix.i386.

>> ...there is confusion to where posting regarding
>> SCO products should be posted.
>I haven't seen any confusion in comp.unix.i386.  Perhaps it exists in
>comp.unix.xenix for historical reasons, but that confusion will resolve
>itself as SCO's UNIX product becomes better known.  Moreover, that same
>temporary confusion would exist with any new group.

You have not seen any confusion because you are from Interactive Systems
Corporation.  The logical place to post for interactive 386 system is in
comp.unix.i386.  You do not offer a Xenix product.  The confusion
will grow as SCO sells more and more UNIX systems.

In article <260EB8FF.1707 at> evan at (Evan Leibovitch)

>>This group would be intended for postings regarding all products
>>from Santa Cruz Operations;  Including but not limited to SCO
>>Xenix, SCO Unix, Xsight, (ODT) Open Desk Top, Lyrix, VP/ix, SCO
>>Professional, etc.
>Xenix is dealt with in comp.unix.xenix

Yes, this is clear.

>Unix is dealt with in comp.unix.i386
A lot of people are not aware of this. If they are they will post to
both comp.unix.i386 and comp.unix.xenix.

>Lyrix is dealt with in comp.text

Most probably would get 3 cross posting comp.text, comp.unix.xenix and
if they understand comp.unix.i386 this will get a posting too.

>ODT and Professional have not generated much traffic at all.
>To make matters more confusing, two of the products you mentioned is not
>even originally SCO's. Xsight (from Locus) and VP/ix (from one of SCO's
>competitors, Interactive) are sold by many other vendors and are
>sometimes even known by other names (AT&T Simultask comes to mind), but
>questions about these products certainly extends beyond SCO users alone.

I am not sure where you are suggesting to post ODT, Professional, Xsight
or VP/ix questions.  Let not have separate groups for all these products.
You will not have to have a SCO license before you can join comp.unix.sco
lets leave it open for all!

>Just about anything someone would post to this group would have
>to be cross-posted somewhere else in order to get the best hit.

I disagree the best hit would be comp.unix.sco for SCO products.

>>Most posting for SCO are currently being posted under
>>unix.comp.xenix.  This group is for posting regarding all Xenix
>>systems not just SCO.  SCO is currently shipping SCO Unix
>>which is no longer called Xenix.
>However, SCO Xenix is still a popular product, and there sill continue
>to be Xenix-specific postings for some time to come.

There is some confusion to what I previously posted.  I do not want the
group comp.unix.xenix removed.  This is still a popular product from
many companies and because of the differences should have a
separate group. 

>SCO Unix is far more similar to other comopany's 386 Unix implementations
>than SCO would like you to think.

Your signature says it better.

>First they built the world's
>standard...then they added
>standards no-one else had--SCO ap
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