stty 57600 is a no-no, but most Macintosh terminal emulators have just 19200 and 57600, so 38400 is useless (uw is an exception). Any clues? From: flash at ee.qmc.ac.uk (Flash Sheridan) Reply-To: sheridan at nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk or_perhaps_Reply_to: flash at cs.qmc.ac.uk