I have tried uname -a and adb -k /vmunix /dev/mem on my ULTRIX which is either 4.0 or 4.1 (Something I haven't been able to verify obviously) I believe it to be 4.0 as our machine running 4.1 has the uname command. The one I am having a problem with doesn't have uname(1) or adb(anything). Anything else? ian -=Runaway Daemon=-