BSD vs ULTRIX vs SysV

[rbj at ICST-CMR.arpa]

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	Subject: Re: BSD vs ULTRIX vs SysV
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	Date: Thu, 17 Jul 86 12:52:00 -0800
	From: Scott Menter <escott at ICS.UCI.EDU>
	
	
	I think all of this should have gone to info-unix, but a reply is a
	reply...

OK, I'll send it there too.
	
	> 	I administer the UN*X side of the academic computing facility
	> 	here at Tufts University.  I am currently running two VAX 780's
	> 	under 4.2BSD.  The arrival of 4.3BSD has prompted my management
	> 	to take a look at alternates to the BSD UN*X.  They keep
	
	You mean, you *have* 4.3BSD and you're thinking of going to something
	else?  Or by "arrival" do you mean something like "announcement"?  And
	if you *do* have 4.3, I'd like to know how you got it, unless you're a
	Beta site, in which case I already know.
	
	By the way, it seems to me that I saw a "copy" (photocopy) of the 4.3
	distribution tape at Usenix.  Well, we just called Berkeley and were
	told that 4.3 is still "not ready for distribution".  Sigh.
	
Well, supposedly it *is* ready for distribution, but we ain't got it neither.
Do any other gummint sites have it either (besides the betas)?
	
	 > I find support relatively unnecessary, especially in a University
	 > environment. You should find lots of gurus in Beantown.
	
	 Beantown!?  

Boston. As in Boston baked beans. Common nickname. Yes, I know that
Tufts is in Sommerville. Been there oncest or twicest.
	
	 > 	How would you begin to decide which OS a university should
	 > 	run?  If I receive enough interesting answers,  I'll summarize
	 > 	and post,  as others will surely be faced with the same sorts
	 > 	of questions from the same sorts of managers.
	
	 I have an idea, Kevin.  Why don't you get on 128 and drop by Brandeis
	 and see what they think?  They've been using UNIX since before I was
	 an undergraduate there.  I think you'll find that BSD is the way to
	 go in a university environment, for the reasons rbj suggests.  I found
	 that each class had a couple of hackers, often roommates, who were
	 willing to take on system support.  Heck, we did it for $3.65 an hour
	 at Brandeis! And that included cleaning the terminals and vacuuming
	 the labs!!

But you didn't do windows, right? :-)

	 > 	Kevin Sullivan Sr. Systems Programmer
	 > 	Tufts University Medford, MA 02155
	 > 	ARPA: kjs%tufts at CSNET-RELAY	BITNET: kjs at tufts
	 > 
	 > Any relation to the Pats owners?
	
	 If so, a few other Brandeis alumni and myself would like to talk to you
	 about ruining a little party we had last January !!

The same fate befell the Cowboys. Sigh.

	 > 	(Root Boy) Jim Cottrell		<rbj at icst-cmr.arpa>
	 > 	Was my SOY LOAF left out in th'RAIN?  It tastes REAL GOOD!!
	
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