I have no understanding whatsoever of 5.0 or 5.2, but I know that mailx and at aren't included. What do you do without ls, cat and uucp, tho? -Darren ____ / \ | Rt 4, Box 416, Durham, NC 27703 _____|_____ Darren G. Friedlein data (bacchus) : 919/596-7746 / | \ voice : 919/596-9492 ( | ) \____/ __/ {mcnc|icus|ethos|gladys|bakerst}!bacchus!darren