Sun-Spots Digest, v6n109
William LeFebvre
Sun-Spots-Request at RICE.EDU
Sat Jun 11 04:57:54 AEST 1988
SUN-SPOTS DIGEST Friday, 10 June 1988 Volume 6 : Issue 109
Today's Topics:
Re: csh bug still in SunOS 4.0
Re: 68881 on a 3/50
To bundle or not to bundle
Telebit Wants to Know: new features in TrailBlazers
gammontool
Using Codex 2233 modems for dialing out?
How does one identify one of the problem monitors?
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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 88 13:17:44 CDT
From: drl%backup at uunet.uu.net (David R. Linn)
Subject: Re: csh bug still in SunOS 4.0
>>psune% echo !#:h
>>Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>
>-- Charlie Mills
>[[ I just checked and it still exists under version 3.2 and 3.5. Note
>that the "echo" is not necessary, only the argument "!#:h". It's a great
>way to log off (provided you have set "limit core 0")! --wnl ]]
And it still exists in 4.0. Here's the error it writes to the console
window.
A tty window has exited because its child exited.
Its child's process id was 1441 and it died due to signal 11 and left a
core dump.
Oh, well. Maybe in 4.1 ...
David Linn
System Manager, Vanderbilt University School of Engineering
INET: drl at vuse.vanderbilt.edu [129.59.100.1] (or root at vuse...)
UUCP: ...!uunet!vuse!drl CSNET: drl at vanderbilt.csnet
AT&T: (615)322-7924 BITNET: linndr at vuengvax
USPS: P.O. Box 1824, Vanderbilt University, Nashville, TN, USA, 37235
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Date: 6 Jun 88 02:13:52 GMT
From: roy%phri at uunet.uu.net (Roy Smith)
Subject: Re: 68881 on a 3/50
In v6n100, Jon Turner asks about putting his own 68881 in a 3/50 for $200
instead of being paying Sun $700 for one. Look in the Sun-Spots archives
from a couple of months ago; I detailed the procedure to do exactly that.
In a nutshell, you should be able to install an off-the-shelf 68881 in a
3/50 in about 15 minutes and get exactly the same functionality as you
would with the factory-installed option. We've done several of them.
Works like a charm.
Roy Smith, System Administrator
Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
{allegra,philabs,cmcl2,rutgers}!phri!roy -or- phri!roy at uunet.uu.net
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Date: Sun, 05 Jun 88 17:23:32 CST
From: Robert Coleman <COLEMAN at UREGINA1.BITNET>
Subject: To bundle or not to bundle
In recent issues of Sun-Spots, there has been more than a little groaning
concerning the forthcomming unbundling of Sun software. This new policy
is going to cause havock in the University context. We already have
enough trouble deciding how much each user should pay and how much the
university should pay. Once the software is unbundled, each user is going
to say "I do not need that package, I am not going to pay for it! If you
want it, you pay for it." Of course, if the package were there anyway, the
user might well find that it proved useful from time to time. In a
university environment, support for a Sun type of network comes from users
who have a wide variety of software needs. If the commonality of the
system is destroyed by unbundling the software, the rational for the
existence of the system is destroyed also. The users might just as well
get their own stand alone systems.
Sun has always had a different policy for universities than for private
concerns. I see no reason why Sun could not sell private businesses the
specific unbundled software each needs and bundle up for universities at a
decently discounted price.
Perhaps the members of Sun-Spots could send Sun an electronic petition in
which we collectively express our displeasure concerning this new policy.
Someone on a node with sufficient resources could publish a petition to
which the rest of us could mail our electronic signatures. Alas, our node
is not rich enough.
Robert Coleman
coleman at uregina2
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Date: Mon Jun 6 10:33:03 1988
From: telebit!rls at ames.arc.nasa.gov
Subject: Telebit Wants to Know: new features in TrailBlazers
Pardon the wide posting, but since so many of you are using the Telebit
TrailBlazer Plus, this may be the best way to ensure that you see this.
Basically, Telebit is making some decisions about what new features to
incorporate into the TrailBlazer Plus (and future) modems. I would like
email describing (briefly!!!) what new features you'd like to see in our
modems.
To get you started, here are some ideas that other people have already
suggested. You may place votes for these, or add new features of your own.
NEW MODEM FEATURE IDEAS....
1. Fix Autobaud to work every time
2. Full Hayes command set (identical)
3. TCP/SLIP Support in the modem
4. V.32 compatability (along with PEP)
5. Higher Level MNP support (in slow speed modes), Level ?
6. 4-wire Leased line support
7. Group III Fax support
8. Synchronous to Async Conversion
Remember, we ARE listening, so this is your chance to help define the
modem of the future! Respond to me via email, please.
Regards,
Richard Siegel Phone: (415) 969-3800
Product Manager UUCP: {sun,uunet,ames,hoptoad}!telebit!rls
Telebit Corporation ARPA: telebit!rls at ames.ARPA
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Date: 3 Jun 88 22:30:32 GMT
From: hpda!sun!megatest!djones at uunet.uu.net (Dave Jones)
Subject: gammontool
I put myself through graduate school playing backgammon, back during the
backgammon fad days of the late seventies. I play the gammontool program
every now and then to kill time. To keep things interesting, I try to see
how large a score I can run up before it wins a single point. So I always
double when I am behind in the race. (That's when gammontool will accept,
willy nilly.) Best to date: 694 - 0.
I don't think it cheats. Seems so sometimes, but that's just the nature
of dice. The extremely unlikely is certain to happen. My "customers"
used to think I was extremely lucky. But fellow "businessmen" used to
laugh about some of the disasterous tosses I had to endure. It just
depends on your point of view.
Somebody recommended "Backgammon for Blood" by Mike Brecker. It's true
that the strategy described there is just the thing for running up a score
against gammontool. However, if you play against a competent human the
way Becker wants you to, bring plenty "green transfusions" with you,
because you're going to find out what the title of the book translates to
in practical terms.
My alternate suggestion is "Backgammon" by Paul Magriel. Excellent
introductory text by a real nice guy.
Paul and somebody whose name I don't remember wrote a backgammon program
sometime around 1980 or so. It was purported to play rather well. I
wonder if anybody has a line on what happened to it.
Dave J.
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Date: Mon Jun 6 08:00:53 1988
From: janus!ge1cbx!gerald at uunet.uu.net
Subject: Using Codex 2233 modems for dialing out?
We are trying to use a Codex 2233 modem for dialing out on our Sun 3/260
running beta 3.5. Supposedly, this modem is Hayes compatible. However,
we haven't had any luck in getting it to dial successfully. Everything is
set up correctly on our Sun because when we tried a borrowed Hayes modem
it worked like a charm. Has anyone else used a Codex modem before or does
anyone have any suggestions.
Thanks in advance,
Gerald Aden
Quotron Systems Inc. | Phone: (213)827-4600 x4254
5454 Beethoven Street | uucp: {cbosgd,ihnp4,trwrb}!scgvaxd!janus!ge1cbx!gerald
Post Office Box 66914 | uunet!janus!ge1cbx!gerald
Los Angeles, CA 90066 |
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Date: Sun, 05 Jun 88 17:43:28 CST
From: Robert Coleman <COLEMAN at UREGINA1.BITNET>
Subject: How does one identify one of the problem monitors?
Recently, there have been disturbing reports of serious hardware problems
with some?? Sun monitors. Some of the comments seem to suggest that not
all of the monitors that Sun ships are involved, that there is a sort of
lottery and one might get lucky depending on when and from where one
orders. Is this the case?
How does one identify one of those monitors that are likely to be "bad"?
Where does one look for the lable, etc.?
In v6n90, it was suggested that one of the problems was that the flyback
transformer lead was not sufficiently insulated. Is this the only
problem?
Regarding the comment in v6n100 to the effect that Sun has doubled its
repair charges for its monitors, I think that it is fair to observe that
service charges are a measure of a companies confidence in the reliability
of its product. It would seem that Sun has just announced that its
monitors are shoddy goods. [[ Not necessarily. A service charge also
reflects the rarity of both the replacement parts and the talent needed to
diagnose and fix the item (in some ways that is a measure of the
obsolescence of the item). --wnl ]]
Robert Coleman
coleman at uregina2.bitnet
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 88 09:31:37 BST
From: Ida <ida%EAGLE.WARWICK.AC.UK at cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: Postscript for Sun Manual Binder Labels
I recently posted to the digest asking for some postscript to print the
labels for our Sun Manuals. Several people have asked me for a copy, so I
thought I would post it here. (I have lost the name of the person that
sent it to me.. someone from Reading I think). I have made the label
slightly shorter because it didn't quite fit on our printer. If you don't
like Helvetica for the titles, it is easy to change. You will probably
have to redo the grouping of the manuals to suit your site.
Here it is:
[[ This is also the last article in this digest issue. You can skip
the rest of it if you are not interested. --wnl ]]
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% June 19, 1984
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Russ Lomax. Department of Engineering
russ at uk.ac.warwick.eagle University of Warwick,
[+44|0]203 523523 ext 2115 Coventry, CV4 7AL, England
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