Sun-Spots Digest, v6n266
William LeFebvre
Sun-Spots-Request at Rice.edu
Fri Oct 21 07:42:58 AEST 1988
SUN-SPOTS DIGEST Wednesday, 19 October 1988 Volume 6 : Issue 266
Today's Topics:
Re: S-PLUS (2)
Re: Source for 'S'
Re: kermit for sun 4 (2)
Re: .cshrc vs .login
Re: interactive spelling checker for SUN
Re: Voice Recognition Hardware/Software
Re: MX sendmail for Sun OS 3.5
fputs slightly busted under 4.0
Memory for an at-home Sun 3/50
Configuration File for sendmail.mx?
451 on Sun4? I wanted a 753!
UUCP, bug or feature?
SunLink MCP RS-449 ports (0,1) configured as RS-232?
60M tape compatibility?
Motorola?
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 11:48:51 CDT
From: carlg at rosevax.rosemount.com (Carl Gansen)
Subject: Re: S-PLUS (1)
Reference: v6n255
Our contact at SSI for S+ is David Hartwell (206)322-8707
carlg at rosevax.Rosemount.Com
uunet!rosevax!carlg
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 88 10:47:01 PDT
From: ames!eos!khanh at ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: S-PLUS (2)
> would anyone know who I can contact regarding purchase of the 'S'
> statistical package for Suns?...
Their phone number from the S-PLUS manual: (206) 322-3841
Address is: P.O. Box 85625, Seattle, WA 98145-1625
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 88 10:29:49 PDT
From: battan at tc.fluke.com (Jim Battan)
Subject: Re: Source for 'S'
Reference: v6n255
S is still available from Bell Labs. Dial 1-800-828-UNIX to talk to AT&T
about it. We just got a "New S" source tape, which includes the old S
sources, but only until December 1, 1988, if I read AT&T's letter right.
New S is somewhat "object oriented", cleaner, and faster. There are no
NeWS or X device drivers, but it should work fine under SunView 1, and
"...device functions for these window systems will be available in the
future". There's a new book "The New S Language," much improved over the
old.
However, one of the files (src/qpe/comp_util.c) won't compile under SunOS
4.0. Sun has said they're working on the problem, which I think is too
many local labels for the assembler. So I'm waiting for 4.0.1 to try it
out.
One nit: I wish AT&T would have more cleanly separated the old S and New
S sources. They just merged them together. Supposedly it is possible to
install New S without old S.
Jim Battan (+1 206 356 6469)
battan at tc.fluke.COM || {sun,uw-beaver,decvax!microsoft}!fluke!battan
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Date: 14 Oct 88 23:20:07 GMT
From: sdsu!ecphssrw%trantor at ucsd.edu (Stephen Walton)
Subject: Re: kermit for sun 4 (1)
In <Sun-Spots Digest, v6n252>, wiley%unm-la writes:
>I recently brought up Kermit 4E (069) on a Sun 4/110 running SunOS4 r4.0.
The current version of C Kermit is 4E(070). It can be FTP'd from
CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU (mget KER:CK*.* if you want the whole thing). You can
also get it on BITNET via the Kermit mail/file server (send HELP to
KERMSRV at CUVMA as either the text of a mail message or as an interactive
message) and via anonymous UUCP from Ohio State.
Stephen Walton, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Univ. Northridge
RCKG01M at CALSTATE.BITNET ecphssrw at afws.csun.edu
swalton at solar.stanford.edu ...!csun!afws.csun.edu!bcphssrw
[[ But read the next message first...... --wnl ]]
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 88 16:21:07 EDT
From: Fuat C. Baran <fuat at cunixc.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Re: kermit for sun 4 (2)
CU20B was our last remaining DEC20, and was retired last month. Kermit
files are now available via anonymous ftp from cunixc.cc.columbia.edu
(128.59.40.130) in ~ftp/kermit. Please get ~ftp/kermit/read.me first.
For more info, please send mail to
kermit at cunixc.cc.columbia.edu or
info-kermit-request at cunixc.cc.columbia.edu (for info-kermit
digest info)
or
Kermit Distribution Center
Columbia University Center for Computing Activities
701 Watson Labs
612 W115th St.
New York, NY 10025
--Fuat
* Do not send mail to me. I am not in the Kermit Group *
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 88 01:26:32 EDT
From: jesse at mssun7.msi.cornell.edu (Jesse Lee)
Subject: Re: .cshrc vs .login
Is it possible to make the shell execute the commands in .login first
rather than .cshrc first? I wrote a program which prompts for secondary
password after logging in. It should be the first program that to be run;
otherwise whoever can break in will have sufficient time to press ^C to
stop the shell executing the commands in .cshrc or .login. But if I put
the program in .cshrc, then whenver I start a new shell, it will always
prompt for password which of course is quite annoying.
To solve this problem, either the shell executes the commands in .login
first or to modify the program so that it can tell whether the shell that
invokes itself is the login shell or not. But I do not know how to do the
latter one. Can somebody tell me how?
Jesse Lee
[[ Changing the order in which the "rc" files were read in would likely
break other things. There are two potential solutions: (1) use a
different login shell, making sure that it changes the "SHELL" environment
variable to something real; (2) have the program (or the .cshrc) determine
if the shell is the login shell. Here are some ideas. The argv[0] of a
login shell always starts with a '-' (courtesy of /bin/login). The
program could go mucking around in kmem to find the ancestral chain. The
program's parent is the shell that invoked it. If the shell's parent is
pid 1, then it is a login shell. If the shell's parent is an "rlogin"
process, then it is a login shell. Otherwise, it very likely is not.
--wnl ]]
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 88 01:18:16 PDT
From: shipley%WEB.Berkeley.EDU at lilac.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: interactive spelling checker for SUN
I Have been using a spell checker called xspell [no it does not use "The X
Window system]. If anyone will like a copy I can provide see if I can
place it somewhere for anon. ftp.
Peter Shipley
shipley at berkeley.edu
uunet!lurnix!shipley
decwrl!pyramid!hippo!{root shipley peter}
pacbell!hippo!{root shipley peter}
...!etc!etc!etc!...
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Date: 14 Oct 88 22:17:23 GMT
From: dcdwest!smead at ucsd.edu (Frank Smead)
Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Hardware/Software
> Andrew S. Gerber Writes:
> Can anyone give me a pointer to companies that
> manuafacture/distribute voice recognition software and hardware for
> the SUN.
ITT offer a high performance large vocabulary Speech recognition system
for the SUN, the VRS-1280/VME. The system includes a single VME board
continuous speech recognizer with software for applications development
and template generation. The system has been on the market for over a
year and is available for immediate delivery.
The specifications for the board include:
Syntax driven, speaker dependent, continuous speech recognition.
Vocabulary Capacity: 500 Unique Words, 2,000 total words.
Throughput Capacity: 500 Seconds of Speech (~800 Words)
Accuracy: Greater than 98% (Standard ITT Acceptance Test)
Simultaneous Speech Recognition, CVSD Recording and Synthesis
Software:
Sun Device Driver
Application Development Library
Syntax Generator
Template Training module
CVSD Synthesis Editor
Diagnostics Module
Demonstration Module
The VRS-1280/PC system is available for the PC environment.
The VRS-1280/Tactical system is available for military environment.
For further information contact:
Frank Smead
ITT
492 River Road
Nutley, New Jersey 07110
(201) 284-3000
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Date: 16 Oct 88 19:37:25 PDT (Sunday)
From: Lovstrand.EuroPARC at xerox.com
Subject: Re: MX sendmail for Sun OS 3.5
Cc: Sun-Nets at brillig.umd.edu, Sun-Spots at rice.edu
Standard sendmail 5.59 (source) is available via anonymous ftp from
ucbarpa.berkeley.edu in ~ftp/4.3/sendmail.tar.Z, but perhaps I may suggest
trying the IDA* Sendmail Enhancement Kit on top of that, which you can get
from arisia.xerox.com in ~ftp/pub1/ida.tar.Z. Available from the same
place is also a precompiled sendmail for Sun-3/SunOS 3.5 in
ida-sendmail-sun3.Z.
The IDA Sendmail Enhancement Kit consists of a set of patches to the
Berkeley sendmail 5.59 source together with various support programs and
IDA's pretty highly parameterized sendmail.cf setup. Installation
instructions and documentation is included. Some of the Kit's features
are listed below, see the Kit's README file for more info.
o Nameserver $[..$] Default Argument
o Direct Access to Dbm(3) Files and Yellow Pages
o Batched SMTP Support
o Separate Envelope/Header Rewriting Rulesets
o Separate Local UUCP Host Name
o Return Path for UUCP Mailers
o UUCP Header Address Relativization
o Support for Multi-Token Matches
o Support for Embedded Subruleset Calls
o Better To: and Cc: Headers of Returned Messages
o Delayed Macro Evaluation
o Address Rewriting Loop Detection
o A "Fool-Proof" Frozen File Validity Check
o Improved Error Reporting & Test Mode Output
The configuration file together with the supplied data files and utility
programs implement such nice features as pathalias based systems routing
within sendmail, fully !-/@-translating rulesets, generic local user
addresses, and more.
It's available for free, BUT with a minimal support. Let me know about
problems, but please don't rely on me fixing them -- I only have very
little time to spend on sendmail these days.
The current version of the Kit is 1.2.5 [Sept 15, 1988]. It has been sent
to comp.sources.unix and ought to eventually become available via their
archives as well.
--Lennart <Lovstrand.EuroPARC at Xerox.COM>
Rank Xerox EuroPARC, 61 Regent Street, Cambridge CB2 1AB, England
*) IDA is an abbreviation of "Institutionen for Datavetenskap", which is
Swedish for The Department of Computer and Information Science. Under no
circumstance should it be confused with the IDA that stands for the
Institute for Defense Analysis, with which the author has no relationship
to nor any wish to become associated with.
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 88 13:02:23 EDT
From: jgreely at oz.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely)
Subject: fputs slightly busted under 4.0
Ran into a small problem with fputs. The following program produces
correct output under 3.5, but not under 4.0 (on a Sun 4):
---------- cut here ----------
#include <stdio.h>
main()
{
char *foo = "\nFOO\n";
char *bar = "\nBAR\n";
fputs(foo,stdout);
printf("%s",foo);
fputs(bar,stdout);
printf("%s",bar);
fputs("---\n");
}
---------- cut here ----------
Under 3.5, you get:
FOO
FOO
BAR
BAR
---
Under 4.0 (on a Sun 4), you get:
FOO
BAR
BAR
---
Placing any other function which prints to stdout ahead of the
first fputs magically corrects its behavior, as does switching
the values of foo and bar.
J Greely (jgreely at cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!cis.ohio-state.edu!jgreely)
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 88 10:00:21 EDT
From: Skip Montanaro <steinmetz!montnaro at uunet.uu.net>
Subject: Memory for an at-home Sun 3/50
Jan Peterson writes in Suns-At-Home V1n27:
If I were you, I would *NOT* get a 3/50. The 50 is limited to 4 meg
of RAM, and this is simply not enough if you want to run SunOS 4.0.
I spoke with a company in Cambridge, MA recently (Cambridge Automation
perhaps?) recently, that claims to have upgrade memory for Sun-3/50s.(I
will believe it when I see it.) I asked them to send me literature about
it. (This was about two weeks ago. I haven't received anything yet, so
I'm getting pretty skeptical.) If anyone else has information regarding
this, please post. I will follow-up on my contact when I get literature.
Skip Montanaro (montanaro at sprite.steinmetz.ge.com, montanaro at ge-crd.arpa)
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 14:53:35 CDT
From: Frank W Peters <PETERS at MSSTATE.BITNET>
Subject: Configuration File for sendmail.mx?
I am attempting to set up a sun 3/160 as a mailrelay/maildrop for some of
our internet link. I am running sendmail.mx instead of sendmail but
appear to still be looking up hosts via ypserv. I am having trouble
figuring out exactly what in sendmail.cf must be changed.
Does anyone out there have any pointers? A working sample configuration
file would be ideal.
Please send to me directly as I'm sure the rest of this list isn't
interested in a flood of configuration files (those things are a pain
aren't they?)
Frank Peters
bitnet: peters at msstate
internet: peters%msstate.bitnet at cunyvm.cuny.edu
You-might-also-try: peters at rt.cc.msstate.edu
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 16:57:57 EDT
From: Ned Danieley <ndd at sunbar.mc.duke.edu>
Subject: 451 on Sun4? I wanted a 753!
I just received a 4/280 with 2 of the 900 Meg disks, and it has the same
tired old Xylogics 451 controller that we got two years ago on our 3/280.
I just *assumed* that we would get a decent (ie, 32 bit) controller with a
brand-new machine and almost 2 gigabytes of disk.
Has anyone been able to swap their 451 for a 753 or 7053? Did it cost? Is
Sun maintaining it? I'm using a couple of Ciprico controllers, but since
Sun doesn't accept them for maintenance, I don't feel like I can get rid
of the 451, and it irritates me to be stuck with that slow thing.
Ned Danieley (ndd at sunbar.mc.duke.edu)
Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory
Box 3140, Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC 27710
(919) 684-6807 or 684-6942
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Date: 14 Oct 88 22:26:32 GMT
From: heather at cs.ucla.edu
Subject: UUCP, bug or feature?
I have a technical question regarding uucp administration. I am setting
my Sun 3/50 up to call another computer using uucp. I already have the
modem set up and have successfully transferred files with uucp. The modem
is Hayes compatible.
The problem is that when uucico runs, it sets the auto-answer bit of the
modem to on. This condition is not reset when uucico ends. I do not want
the modem to be in auto-answer mode because my telephone line is used for
people to call in during times that uucp is not running.
I had the same problem with the tip program when I was first testing the
modem and found a way around it by modifying the /etc/remote file so that
it not only dialed the phone number but also specifically set the
auto-answer register to off (0). i.e instead of using ####### as the
phone number I used S0=0#######. I have not found a similar work around
for uucp.
What can you suggest?
Thank you,
Heather Burris, UCLA Sun software support administrator
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 88 11:27:14 +0100
From: mcvax!cgch!whna at uunet.uu.net (Heinz Naef)
Subject: SunLink MCP RS-449 ports (0,1) configured as RS-232?
The SunLink Multiprotocol Communication Processor (MCP) board allows to
use the two RS-449 ports in either the RS-449 or the RS-232 mode, by
setting the appropriate jumper(s) J1501 or J1502, respectively (refer to
brochure SunLink MCP Configuration Procedures, table 1 on page 3, which
itself refers to the Installation Manual for cabling diagrams).
In the manual "4 Channel SunLink Multiprotocol Communications Processor
Field Service Manual and Installation Notes" there are only diagrams for
RS-449--RS-449 and RS-232--RS-232 connections. There is no diagram showing
the mapping of the RS-232 signals onto the 37-pin RS-449 connector when
configured for RS-232.
Could anyone mail me the pin configuration?
Thanks in advance and best regards,
Heinz Naef, c/o CIBA-GEIGY AG, R-1032.5.62, P.O.Box, CH-4002 Basel, Switzerland
Internet: whna%cgch.uucp at uunet.uu.net
UUCP: whna at cgch.uucp Phone: (+41) 61 697 26 75
BITNET: whna%cgch.uucp at cernvax.bitnet Fax: (+41) 61 697 32 88
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 15:55:55 EDT
From: "John Bennett" <novavax!proxftl!johnb at bikini.cis.ufl.edu>
Subject: 60M tape compatibility?
We have a some Suns with the standard 60M tape drives. We would like to
be able to exchange tapes with some non-Sun 386 machines. I would
appreciate any information about hardware and software to do this.
Email: uflorida!novavax!proxftl!johnb
uunet!proxftl!johnb
USmail: 3511 NE 22nd Ave.
Fort Lauderdale FL 33308
Voice: (305) 566-3511
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 10:24:56 CDT
From: Daniel Goldman <goldman at mbir.bcm.tmc.edu>
Subject: Motorola?
Does anyone out there get software/hardware support from Motorola? What's
your satisfaction with the level of support, compared with SUN?
Daniel Goldman (goldman at mbir.bcm.tmc.edu)
Department of Cell Biology
Baylor College of Medicine
Houston, TX 77030
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